This is far from a victimless crime, cost to customers aside, what if someone needed to make a 999 call?

I've lost hundreds of hours trying to gain access to BT exchanges, how have these people managed it? They should get the £15k as a reward and to share their secret.

- Paris because I bet her Obass card works first time every time

>"The bagged nine 21CN network cards costing thousands of pounds each."

Who the hell can they be planning on selling them to? Surely nobody but BT uses them...

"... the persons responsible for this irresponsible crime ..." ???

Oh wait, this is the Plod speaking.

Someone needs to put a stop to all these Guy Ritchie films. Wouldn't have thought BT would be doing the investigating though. Oh well - I suppose Mr Plod is too busy with his RIAA sub-contracting work.

When phorm goes titsup the liquidators will be pulling those exchanges apart.

The first time these cards show up online, won't their mac addresses give them away?

"This type of incident can cause real disruption to the telephone network and deprive people of the use of their telephones and computers. It is essential the persons responsible for this irresponsible crime are brought to justice and prevented from committing similar acts in the future."

I don't expect a policeman to comment on the ins and outs of the UK comms infrastructure, or the ecomonics of modern communications, but lets be honest, this break in wouldn't have caused half the disruption it did had it not been for the monopolistic position BT still holds in this country.

It certainly doesn't justify the break in, but if there was more than BT (and in places Virginmedia) available for our comms then the prices would be lower all round and the entire infrastructure would be more resiliant to attack.

If you have ever bitched about BT but also ever supported Thatcher, Major or Blair then you have no one but yourself to blame for the shocking state of communications in this country.

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nice to see that you cant just walk in an take stuff, oh wait they did ;)

... is the worst TE I have worked in! The 2nd worst is Abbey TE, i.e. the Prime Minister's local TE.

So, these items probably wouldn't be much use to anyone but another telephone exchange, would they? I mean, they don't improve your home phone service, or make your stereo or microwave work any better, right?

So who's buying them? And I assume they have serial numbers on them, so any maintenance calls would pop up a red flag at the manufacturer's service facility.

yeah that should bring in some leads..^^

have to say ( i used to live round the corner from this exchange, in globe road in stepney), the commercial road is one of the busiest in london..you have to marvel at the functioning grey matter in deciding to give this blag a go!

cheers,

bill

p.s. stuff and nonsense: http://www.eupeople.net/forum

>Who the hell can they be planning on selling them to? Surely nobody but BT uses them...

Banking, VISA etc is moving on to 21CN - roque applications in those directions would be my guess - clearly not the plods with such low reward.

....to anyone else but BT, unless they are building an exchange... so if the kit IS being sold as a complete card, then it will be going abroad...

but more likely, the cards are being stripped for the components that are still worth a lot of money..

the people stealing this kit will already have a buyer in place, or more likely, the people who want the kit has recruited the people to do the break in for them...

mines the one with the RS components catalog in the pocket !!!

Forgive me if I'm speaking out of my bum but..

Couldn't these stolen items be fettled to add some cyber crime additions... then at a later date be swapped back ?

Dunno why they didn't just announce the reward as an internal memo....I doubt the police are looking for some random gang given the nature of what was taken and where it was taken from....

As for the market for these, you must be daft if you think only BT use them....

maybe that is what they already did, and just took some other cards as a smokescreen?

...and a yellow 3 wheeled car...

Its S5 these days man... come one, get with the times!

are on the BT board.

Yes, I know it was predictable. But it needed to be said.

When they make an announcement to the effect in all the major daily papers that there completely dropping Phorm.

Deal?

Personally I take this and similar incidents in a completely different manner to the official line that it was just theives that deceided to break into an exchange or two to make a quite profit.

I would say it is more likely that members of the English population have had just about all they can take from BT. As over the last decade we (the Englaish nation) have had to put up with an continual stream of bad service, deliberate misrepresentation and deception, fraud, forgery, harassment, general spamming and bad manners from BT, it would seem quite likely that certain members of the community are likely to retailiate in kind.

For example once you reaslise that BT having been gaining unauthorised accesses to our computer systems for the last decade to flood us with their unwanted spam, even after repeated requests to control their behaviour, is it that difficult to see that parts of the English population may feel like repaying BT in kind with unauthorised accesses to their equipment exchanges and is it too far to streach you imagination to think that if BT have been conducting Denial of Service attacks against our infrastructure, that some may retailate in kind. If you think about it these attacks are nothing more than Permenant Denial of Service attacks against BT's infrastructure, with the added bonus of liberating some possibly resaleable equipment.

If i was a BT Director I would take this as a warning of what could be to come.

So shouldn't the question really be, who have BT pissed off recently?