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Comments on: MessageLabs takes smut-blocking tech in-house

Accuracy? 

Posted Tuesday 26th August 2008 12:07 GMT

Boffin

From the Fortium website: "The engine is ... proven to be 90-95% accurate in terms of false positives and negatives in independent testing"

So, let me get this right... up to 10% of all images are wrongly classified.

I don't think I want something like this on any system I am responsible for!

F4i or not F4i 

Posted Tuesday 26th August 2008 12:32 GMT

Coat

<shrug>

Hmm are these guys not F4i? The current (or previous) providers of their ICA technology?

Maybe it's a coincidence that they share the same address...

</shrug>

Sony rootkit 

Posted Tuesday 26th August 2008 15:15 GMT

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Just a reminder that Fortium Technologies (then known as First 4 Internet) developed the technology behind Sony's wonderful rootkit.

And any analysis of false positives and false negatives is meaningless without two numbers, e.g. "90% true positives and 2% false positives".

I have personally developed a system that detects 100% of pornographic images. It simply marks all images as pornographic. The false positive rate is crap, though.

Hmph 

Posted Tuesday 26th August 2008 18:23 GMT

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Lovely. Now if they could only get a handle on all of that spam coming from their servers, I might be impressed by something they offer. As it is, we turn away truckloads of offensive messages from messagelabs servers each day, so our opinions of whatever it is that they do are really low.

Regurgitated... 

Posted Tuesday 26th August 2008 19:58 GMT

Stop

Old news. We can only assume that MessageLabs are after headline hitting stories after announcing their need to be bought. Also, was the CFO not on the board of "F4i" ? Or an investor?

Got to love the fudd! Well done that PR engine.

Uhmmmmmm 

Posted Tuesday 26th August 2008 21:55 GMT

Coat

MessageLabs are very expensive for what they do, I hope buying this company doesn't put the prices up for existing customers. Not that I'm one, honest, I find my trusty linux based smtp gateway does the trick nicely.

(the one with smug git label on the back)

Accuracy 

Posted Thursday 28th August 2008 11:39 GMT

Unhappy

Having used the product through MessageLabs Image Control, I would say that "90-95% accurate in terms of false positives and negatives" would be 90-95% false positives. All wedding pictures, baby pictures and close-ups of faces reported (amongst others) as porn. Real porn usually ignored!

Maybe thay were tied into a long contract and thought taking the company over would be the best way to get something usable out of them.