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14 Feb 2008 23:00

The company that refused to die

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What's that odor? Kinda fishy? Kinda off? 

By Highlander
Posted Thursday 14th February 2008 23:12 GMT
Dead Vulture

Oh come on. SCO gets $100M!? for what exactly? they're a worthless husk now. By the time IBM and Novell finish with them, the 'crown jewels' of UNIX will belong to either IBM or Novell. This fellow and his backers are nuts, all they are doing is bankrolling a losing concern which is in it up to it's neck with legal troubles of it's own making. If they inject any significant funding into SCO, it will simply be frittered away with more pointless jockeying for position in court, followed by any and all assets of SCO being forfeit as damages to both Novell and IBM.

No one throws good money after bad, so why throw good money into a fire-pit? Something doesn't add up here. If SCO has persuaded someone to give them this amount of money, either some great big lies were told to someone, or Boise has a cunning plan for escaping the legal 'shitstorm' they started with zero consequences.

Good grief, I have to go over to Groklaw and see what the great unwashed of the Linux world have to say about this.

Gagh! Where's the biohazard icon when you need it?

Should have just kept developing Xenix 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Thursday 14th February 2008 23:18 GMT

Dropped the price to a consumer level - and rode the unix interest that Linux was generating.

People would still have bought Xenix, and as RedHat has shown there is some value in being the support guys.

Unfortunately all their tech has gone - and yeah this is just going to drag out the lawsuits, not that anyone really cares anymore.

Yes! The writer's strike is over! 

By Donald Becker
Posted Thursday 14th February 2008 23:29 GMT

For years we in the tech industry have been following this as a real story.

But we should come clean and admit to ourselves that it's not.

The evidence: very little has happened since the writer's strike has a happened. Groklaw has been re-hashing old story lines. We have many more guest interviews.

But the day after the writer's strike ends, our soap opera suddenly sprouts a new twist. Veronica, who we learned died in a plane crash, is back after sudden recovery from amnesia triggered by a blood transfusion from a eskimo. But it's complicated because Brad has remarried, but is having an affair with Marsha, who is secretly plotting to...

Oh, wait, wrong channel. But the day after the writer's strike ends, SCOX rises from its deathbed, stronger than ever. The doctor pronounces them fit as a fiddle, with "up to 80 more years to live".

I am not yet dead 

By Chad H.
Posted Thursday 14th February 2008 23:29 GMT
Coat

I am not yet dead, I can sue and I can sing,

I am not yet dead, i can do that lawsuit thing,

I am not yet dead, Dont sell my assets yet, Keep investing all your money cos I'm not yet dead.

(excuse me a monent, I have a phone call, Hello, Eric Idle? Wow, a big name celeb.... What? Cease and Decist? Too much like Spamalot? Bad Taste? Intelectual Property? Okay, Okay, I'll stop.)

Are you kidding me!? 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Thursday 14th February 2008 23:49 GMT
Black Helicopters

Seriously? Carlyle Partners? The people that brought Bin Laden and Bush together now want a piece of SCO?

Is there, like, some competition to collect all the evil in the world in one place and they're trying to get the whole set?

Can anyone spare $100m? 

By Red Bren
Posted Friday 15th February 2008 00:06 GMT
Black Helicopters

I thought Stephen Norris was a failed London Mayoral candidate?

Doesn't a certain Redmond based company have a few quid going spare after being spurned! by! a! certain! search! engine! company?

Middle East? 

By Andy Bright
Posted Friday 15th February 2008 01:22 GMT
Pirate

Presumably by "Middle East'" you mean Redmond, Washington and by "Stephen Norris & Co. Capital Partners" you mean a large software company that resides there. ;)

Great... 

By Henry Wertz
Posted Friday 15th February 2008 01:25 GMT

I think this is great news...Hopefully the company will start paying SCO, SCO will be required to send it all over to Novell, since SCO owes them $30 million in licensing fees SCO has not paid them yet.. and the firm will realize they are sending money into a big money sink. Then Novell is paid the money they are owed, that SCO tried to weasel out of paying, and SCO is still broke.

"Bring outcher dead..." 

By John Benson
Posted Friday 15th February 2008 01:27 GMT
Alert

(protesting:) "I'm actually feeling quite better..."

Nostradamus fans should start searching for other pearls of prophecy in the vast Python oeuvre. ("Surround everyone, everywhere!" is my favorite; if you don't see it happening, you're just not paying attention.)

Who knows ... 

By Ole Juul
Posted Friday 15th February 2008 01:29 GMT
Black Helicopters

Funneling support through Saudi Arabia is certainly a way to cover your tracks if you're MicroSoft. They are, after all, interested in keeping any open source FUD going.

Never mind the bollocks, feed the chimp. 

By I. Aproveofitspendingonspecificprojects
Posted Friday 15th February 2008 02:11 GMT
Alien

"No one throws good money after bad, so why throw good money into a fire-pit? Something doesn't add up here."

I was just thinking that they backed George Bush to lose lots of money long before he had dreams of empire and being the Mad Monk ey.

Then I saw that someone else had linked the firm to the Chimp and the people that paid him to bag Iraq and incidentally stop him producing oil there (the only job he has ever been any good at)

"This is top-drawer coin-of-the-realm kind of money put together from the deep-pockets of the Middle East by Stephen Norris, the co-founder and former president of the ultra-posh Carlyle Group, the guy who had Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal Al Saud salvage Citibank on a cold call and turn a $15 billion profit on mere $590 million equity investment."

http://dotnet.sys-con.com/read/502009.htm

In Firefox you have to disable Javascript. (They seem to have the impression if they block you with a giant advert from seeing the screen, you will be really tempted to join up.)

Is this the one where Paris Hilton enters a flying saucer? And SCO sues IBM and Saudi Arabia ends up owning All American Hi Tech.

Well it is the land of opportunity after all but it won't be the land of the freeware for much longer. Here is to interesting times. And interminable soap operas.

How the hell did I get hooked on this shit?

Things were a lot easier when Errol Flynn rode into the rescue and killed all the original inhabitants and everyone else lived happily ever after. And it was all over in an hour or two, too!

That was the best bit. You still had time to go and be Errol Flynn for a few hours before bedtime. Who wants to be a Chimpanzee, FFS?

FAQ 

By Ole Juul
Posted Friday 15th February 2008 03:08 GMT

Q: "No one throws good money after bad, so why throw good money into a fire-pit?

A: To keep the fire burning.

Carlyle Partners hands are not completely clean... 

By tempemeaty
Posted Friday 15th February 2008 04:51 GMT
Alert

SCO to the Carlyle Partners is only an instrument. A means to and ends. This isn't about saving SCO. This is about CONTROL. If you can take control by claiming ownership to Linux code you can dictate terms of it's use. Linux is the last stand against DRM and call home monitoring software being put into all computers. Those who call the shots on a global scale are not happy with a truly free unmonitored OS in the wild for people to go to.

Neutrino 

By Steen Hive
Posted Friday 15th February 2008 06:43 GMT
Alien

What subatomic particle whizzed through my brain, welded some synapses and made me read "Chuck Norris & Partners"?

Big Hairy Rodent Smell 

By B Johnson
Posted Friday 15th February 2008 07:53 GMT
Dead Vulture

No one who has the nous to create £100m would stick it into a dead duck like SCO.

I am fairly sure that this operation is a front for someone else who stands to gain from SCO's continued attempts to piss on the linux chips.

This is great news!! (for free software) 

By Chris Thomas
Posted Friday 15th February 2008 08:52 GMT
Thumb Up

I don't know whether anyone has gotten this idea as well, but I'll spell it out what I just thought about them getting this extra cash

ITS A FANTASTIC TURN OF EVENTS

right now, free software is facing an uncertain victory, right now, we all know free software is victorious and never had anything to prove, or defend against, we know all this because we're not stupid, we don't read press releases like some people read the newspaper "Wow, did you know that Free Software developers don't feed their children for up one week a month? Thats interesting honey, pass the marmalade"

Some people out there believe every little lie that SCO tell them and everytime they read in the newspaper about a judge kicking them down, they understand a little bit more than they did before.

WE NEED THEM TO CONTINUE, SO THEY CAN FAIL AND THE WHOLE WORLD CAN'T SAY IT WASN'T TRUE.

We need SCO to continue, we need that judgement to be passed down and their asses kicked, we need a judgement, in black and white, SCO didnt own a thing, couldnt sue for anything and free sofware is vindicated. I know that a lot of people will still argue black is white, regardless of what proof you tell them, but for the other 80% the final day of this case, will make them wake up and then nobody can deny what we've known all along.

Sometimes the continuation of painful process, in the long run, is a good thing, lets enjoy the show!

If it wasnt for SCO, I'd do a whole lot more work during the day and a whole lot less reading groklaw, without SCO, I might have to find another pursuit to prevent me from doing things too quickly :D

Enjoy

SCO Oscar nomination 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Friday 15th February 2008 09:01 GMT
Happy

I have to say this SCO story has been a great read for the last few years, personally I think this $100m is the best thing yet, we get more opertunity to spray coffee over our monitors when the next installment of SOAP returns.

Doesn't this make Norris a lawsuit target? 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Friday 15th February 2008 09:02 GMT

If they can show the SCO's case is worthless and he funds more of the same doesn't that expose him to direct lawsuits?

Something like tortuous interference in business?

IBM and Novell may yet get a big wad of cash from this SCO thing, by way of extracting it from Norris directly.

RE: So now you know where your oil money is going 

By Karl Lattimer
Posted Friday 15th February 2008 09:12 GMT

The register, in ALL its glory, as the single, level headed, realistic news source in the world, has just launched a campaign to reduce the world carbon emissions by 10% over the next 15 minutes.

In a press announcement released by the affectionately named el-reg it was said "It seems people just don't want to buy oil if the money goes to sco, and because the oil industry is so distributed its difficult to know when you're funding them... oil revenue funding sco is the leading cause of insurgency in secondlife, being attributed to no less than 60% of so-called nix bashing incidents."

Elreg, more effectively combating climate change than hippies since 2008

Re: Should have just kept developing Xenix 

By Mike Smith
Posted Friday 15th February 2008 09:13 GMT
Gates Horns

No, please no. Not Xenix. Horrible, horrible, HORRIBLE pile of pants. How Microsoft thought Unix should work. Xenix should be paraded to all Linux fanboiz as an Awful Warning of what could happen if Redmond ever tries to "embrace" [sic(k)] Linux.

SCO Unix OTOH was a very nice operating system. Back in 1994 my Internet connection was installed on an elderly 386 (ask yer parents, young 'uns) running it. And it worked very well indeed.

$100m... 

By Steve Anderson
Posted Friday 15th February 2008 10:03 GMT

... should pay the legal fees for, ooh, another three months then.

They are getting desperate ... 

By Tom
Posted Friday 15th February 2008 10:25 GMT

It would appear that if this aggreement is signed as is then Norris' lot get first pick of the carcass.

So they dont actually have to loan SCO any money but they get priority over current creditors.

It would appear that all SCO want to do is to prevent Novell/IBM getting the money they are due. And are prepared to sacrifice the company to that end.

Unique Opportunity 

By Tim Jenkins
Posted Friday 15th February 2008 10:30 GMT

For anyone else with $100 million going spare; I have some exciting news about beachfront property in Florida…

Groklaw's already found the Microsoft connection. 

By Nigel Kneale
Posted Friday 15th February 2008 11:29 GMT

But then again yesterday they found the Microsoft connection between their toast being burnt and their breakfast ruined.

Cyber Terrorism Rears It's Ugly Head 

By John
Posted Friday 15th February 2008 16:22 GMT
Boffin

Don't you see? This is that "cyber terrorism" they have been talking about. The middle east funds SCO, allowing them to continue to terrorize us with their idiocy! Now congress will have to allocate more billions of $$ to keep the crack counter cyber terrorist team outfitted with the latest PIII equipment and 15 inch CRTs!

@Nigel Kneale 

By Ole Juul
Posted Friday 15th February 2008 17:39 GMT

Good one! I too find that the less I think about Microsoft the more I enjoy my breakfast.

@Tim Jenkins 

By Dan Caugherty
Posted Friday 15th February 2008 20:09 GMT
Coat

And if you're associated with Steve Norris, I have some beachfront property in Oklahoma to talk about..

Middle East? 

By Eric Dennis
Posted Friday 15th February 2008 21:21 GMT
Gates Horns

Seems to me that the department of homeland security might want to block this deal, as the "middle eastern" investor hasn't actually been identified and it could well be Bin Laden himself. It also appears that this deal is a direct attempt by SCO to avoid paying Novell the damages awarded to them. Wasn't there already a final judgment detailing that SCO owes Novell money because they don't own the rights to Linux Code? Can't Novell sue SCO for fraud and God knows what else? Can we just be done with SCO??

Who really has a vested interest in SCO winning this case other than SCO? VOLE, of course. LOL...

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