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4 Dec 2007 14:46

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"did not actively set out to get involved in cybercrime" 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Tuesday 4th December 2007 15:24 GMT
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.... and Hitler only invaded Poland after a game of Truth or Dare.

"did not actively set out to get involved in cybercrime" 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Tuesday 4th December 2007 16:06 GMT

I dunno - perhaps he just opened an email attachment in Outlook?

Godwin's Law in one! 

By J Jones
Posted Tuesday 4th December 2007 16:24 GMT
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Comparing an autistic child with Hitler on the first comment. That's why I come here: for the brilliant repartee!

And Hitler... 

By The Other Steve
Posted Tuesday 4th December 2007 17:15 GMT
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...only ever posted anonymously. Pillock.

"brilliant computer programmer" 

By De Zeurkous
Posted Tuesday 4th December 2007 17:34 GMT
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That just means they can't figure his Perl code out.

I count myself lucky 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Tuesday 4th December 2007 17:50 GMT
Stop

I am also mildly Aspergian and was bullied at school, and yet, somehow, I managed to avoid accidentally acquiring control of a huge number of other people's computers and unintentionally exploiting them for a variety of illegal and/or unethical purposes.

After reading this story I can only count myself lucky.

Kids eh 

By Anthony
Posted Tuesday 4th December 2007 18:33 GMT

I blame the parents. Did she never ONCE ask him if he was trying to take over the world?

"What you doing on the PC all the time love?"

"Same thing we do every night mum"

Ah 

By heystoopid
Posted Tuesday 4th December 2007 19:32 GMT
Paris Hilton

Ah , the lad has excellent potential to be a future employee of ASIO/ASIS as most of those wowsers they employ barely have an adequate number of brain cells to switch on their government issue laptops and have a known history of leaving secret files behind in buildings being demolished !

Although I hear all their cars have a boot full of right arms and mirrors just to find you know what !

Perhaps the misunderstood lad needs a mentor like Paris ?

@ heystoopid 

By Brett
Posted Tuesday 4th December 2007 21:31 GMT

Your right. This will go away and he will dissapear in a black hellicopter and spend the rest of his life hacking the chineese

He's not the messia ... 

By Robin
Posted Tuesday 4th December 2007 21:37 GMT
Jobs Halo

... He's a very naughty boy!

bullying 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Tuesday 4th December 2007 21:58 GMT
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"was something of a loner at school who was picked on by bullies."

We've probably a whole range of people reading this, who were also picked on by bullies at school. Very unpleasant. I think it's a shame that this incident will probably be "processed" without drawing attention to the part bullying played in it.

@ Anthony- 

By Rick Brasche
Posted Tuesday 4th December 2007 22:55 GMT
Joke

there is yet hope for the world when "Pinky and The Brain" are still remembered!

"Narf! Zoit!"

Time for the 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Wednesday 5th December 2007 01:17 GMT

lesson that can, does not equal shall. Honestly if he had any imagination he would have realised he could get caught, and not done it does Aspergers syndrome keep you from imagining jail.If every geek on earth who had a socialisation problem did this there'd be no internet. Now get off of my lawn.

@Heystoopid 

By lglethal
Posted Wednesday 5th December 2007 01:46 GMT
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This guy is from NEW ZEALAND.

ASIO is AUSTRALIAN.

I know the two country's are close together and get on pretty well but i dont think ASIO has the right to black bag kiwi's in New Zealand yet...

So a person who masterminded an operation to take over thousand's of computers and infect others with malware, etc "did not actively set out to get involved in cybercrime". Right...

"Just give me a ZX81, and I’ll control the world." 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Wednesday 5th December 2007 07:57 GMT
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Do you think I'm a megalomaniac?

What's the difference between a Kiwi and a Tourist? 

By Wayne S
Posted Wednesday 5th December 2007 09:36 GMT
Joke

The Tourist eventually goes home

(Kiwi - New Zealanders)

@the other steve 

By TeeCee
Posted Wednesday 5th December 2007 10:22 GMT
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I'm a tad upset to find that Hitler posts anonymously here.

Will the anon cow who is actually Hitler please stand up and make himself known?

Is he using "adolf.hitler@thirdreich.eu" as a login? (Harvest that you b******s).

Historically accurate 

By b shubin
Posted Wednesday 5th December 2007 16:12 GMT
Pirate

"Apologize to ze nice Geahhman mann, dollink, ohhr you vill be shott, ya?"

yes, he must be the very epitome of evil. don't tell me, you've never dealt with a case of arrested social development before?

it is common for slightly retarded humans (it's not PC, it's harsh and offensive, but it is accurate, and not meant pejoratively - no flames please) to have little or no moral judgement. many can benefit from formal statements of society's rules, and/or psychological counseling, but few receive such advice. societies do not teach that sort of thing in a structured way, it falls under the "upbringing" and "parenting" catchalls (as if normal parents are trained to deal with such situations).

i moved from the USSR to the US at age 10, and the socialization process was extremely uneven, traumatic, and unpleasant. the culture shock was more severe because most kids in my school didn't like immigrants. i adjusted, but some people do not.

i can easily see how this guy could have developed into a criminal (a desire for acceptance and validation was likely a big part of it), and he's definitely not an isolated case.

at least he didn't shoot anyone. comparing him to Hitler is absurd.

@Anon 5/12/07 07:57 GMT 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Wednesday 5th December 2007 18:52 GMT
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Trashman is that you?

Bullying 

By Gianni Straniero
Posted Wednesday 5th December 2007 19:44 GMT
Paris Hilton

It's a shame, how I carried on at school. I think back to the way I treated some kids and I'm surprised they didn't kick me to death.

All the same, I bumped into one of my victims the other day, and he's turned out good-looking, successful, fabulously wealthy, and is fending off the advances of the hottest chicks in town.

I, OTOH, am now a complete dork, sell insurance, and couldn't get laid at a hooker convention.

So, kids, keep it real and don't use bullying as an excuse to commit horrendous crimes against humanity, like selling the odd spam-distributing botnet.

Retarded - not 

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Wednesday 5th December 2007 21:58 GMT
Boffin

A kid with Aspergers isn't "retarded".

Social issues he may have.

Is there anyone reading this that can concentrate on the details of thousand of lines of code, has a limited social life mostly with like minded blokes and can be fascinated or obsessed by precise technical details?

Or as Wikipeadia puts it;

"AS.... is one of several autism spectrum disorders (ASD) characterized by difficulties in social interaction and by restricted and stereotyped interests and activities. AS is distinguished from the other ASDs in having no general delay in language or cognitive development. "

Now that's Aspergers. or is it just Geekiness?..

Aspergers takes the cop again... 

By Mike Norrish
Posted Thursday 6th December 2007 02:20 GMT

Heh... Should have figured the press would pick up on the whole AS thing.

Seriously, AS shouldn't provide this kid with any sort of excuse- how many people here have AS, have been subjected to heavy bullying and HAVEN'T been tempted to commit serious cyber-crime? Our social difficulties do not extend to not knowing the difference between right and wrong...

@De Zeurkous 

By Edward Pearson
Posted Friday 7th December 2007 15:29 GMT

"That just means they can't figure his Perl code out."

"Brilliant" computer programmers don't use perl.

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